Women Making Big Strides in Science: Dr. Amanda Lynch and Ava Calle ’12 Speak at Women in STEM Event
by Alexandra Huzyk ’20
On Wednesday, October 23, Women in STEM hosted their third event, inviting speakers Dr. Amanda Lynch and Ava Calle ’12 to talk about the challenges and opportunities that they have faced pursuing careers within the STEM field.
Lynch, a climate scientist currently teaching at Brown University, obtained a Ph.D. in atmospheric science from the University of Melbourne in 1993. She began as an undergraduate pursuing degrees in electrical engineering and physics, but quickly switched to applied mathematics due to her negative experiences in the realm of laboratory science.
“In engineering and chemistry labs, I didn’t feel welcome, and I was called on to repeatedly demonstrate my competence,” Lynch said. She shared that “having your competence and belonging questioned over and over again, you start to internalize that,” and it is important to remember that “you do belong and you are competent.”
In her presentation, Lynch described data from a 2015 study in which 100% of 60 women scientists had reported encountering one or more patterns of gender bias in the workplace. These experiences were even more pronounced for women of color, who were often questioned whether or not they were supposed to be in labs after hours.
In terms of computational science, Lynch explained, “Women have really been at the forefront of coding, and in fact made up the majority of computer operators, until the ’80s when these numbers plummeted.”
During the 1980s, Lynch explained that people started to think that it was necessary to have knowledge of computers or a love of gaming in high school in order to pursue it in college. “This shift in culture really influenced the uptick of women in science; especially in an area like climate science, which is heavily computational,” said Lynch.
Throughout this change in culture, Lynch continued to code and became the first woman “Scientist 1” at a research center while working towards her Ph.D. However, with this achievement she also became the object of scrutiny. Male supervisors would constantly send female secretaries to check up on her, she received minimal support and guidance, and she was not considered for required computational resources to complete her work. Due to these gender biases, Lynch decided to change Ph.D. programs to another university.
As a climate scientist, Lynch said she started to become involved in field science while she was completing her Ph.D. and then more heavily as a post-doc. “I was very choosy about situations I chose to put myself in,” said Lynch. “I only took positions in which I was the lead researcher… and only with researchers I knew and trusted.” This is due to the issue of sexual harassment and assault in field experiences.
Although Lynch said that she has never personally experienced any form of sexual harassment in this domain of field science, she provided data which reports that harassment affects women more than men in these particular scenarios.
In order to navigate these situations, while pursuing a career in the STEM field, Lynch encouraged the audience to network with both female and male allies. Additionally, she said, “Support other women, refer them, cite them, nominate them. You can do your part, in very concrete ways, whenever you have the opportunity.” Lastly, Lynch stressed the importance of being stubborn and re-submitting proposals and work, especially in the field of academia.
Ava Calle, a Program Specialist and Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA) in the Intensive Instruction Program at The New England Center for Children, presented after Lynch. Calle graduated from Providence College with a BA in psychology and a pre-health minor, and went on to obtain an MS in applied behavior analysis from Western New England University.
She began her presentation by considering the familiar question, “What do you want to be when you grow up?” She pointed out that this question becomes more weighted when you get older and, especially, as you go on to college. Calle said, “It seems like the question might be insinuating how successful you want to be.”
Calle shared that she knew she liked the sciences and people, and would typically answer the question by saying she wanted to go into psychiatric nursing or neuroscience—without actually being convinced of these statements herself.
During her time at PC, Calle conducted research in a cognition lab and completed an internship at the Groden Center. These experiences exposed her to research and design, as well as applied behavioral analysis. Particularly at the Groden Center, Calle was exposed to children with autism, severely challenging behavior, and students who communicated non-verbally.
In her current position at the NECC, for autism education and research, Calle has continued to ask questions as a researcher while also providing direct care as a teacher. She shared that she is still trying to figure out what she wants to be when she grows up, and where her career path will take her. She urged the audience to “think about who you want to be, not just what you want to be when you grow up.”
As for Calle’s suggestions for PC undergraduates, Calle recommended finding a mentor. “There are very strong females in my field. They are researchers and they are mothers and they are wives, and someone has probably been in your position before you.” She also suggested asking for feedback on your performances and always continuingto ask questions.
After both speakers presented, the audience was encouraged to ask questions. One student asked, “For the people in this room who don’t necessarily know what they want to do yet, what would you give them for advice?” Lynch suggested test driving careers, particularly in summer internships or working in a lab with a professor.
Calle said, “Utilize the network and the people in your department, but also other faculty at Providence College and get in touch with alumni. Don’t assume that if their title is X at that point, that they didn’t go through similar situations and jobs.”
“Women in STEM” Series Inspires Students: PC Welcomes Dr. Sarah Seaton and Dr. Katherine Lee
by Hannah Langley ’21
Providence College boasts impressive science departments that include biology, chemistry, physics, psychology, computer science, and more. These majors all fall under the academic umbrella known as STEM, or science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.
PC’s science departments want to take a particular interest in successful women in scientific industries and fields by holding a speaker series called Women in STEM, which helps to inspire not just women at PC, but all students in the field of science to grow in their careers and create successful and fulfilling futures.
This past Tuesday, October 23, Dr. Katherine L. Lee, an associate research fellow and medicinal chemist at Pfizer in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and Dr. Sarah Seaton, a senior scientist at Indigo Ag, a start-up agricultural company, came to speak to PC students about their educational backgrounds, how they grew their careers, and helpful tips they followed, or wish they had followed, that led them to where they are today.
When discussing college life, Lee and Seaton had somewhat different experiences. Lee, who had grown up in a small town in Massachusetts, decided to go to Yale University and study chemistry.
“I really had to raise the level of my game,” recounted Lee as she reminisced on her college experience.
Seaton, who grew up in a small town in North Carolina, decided to stay local, and went to High Point University.
Seaton talked about how she did not want to go to a big institution and liked the idea of a liberal arts education, but she knew that would make advancing in her career much harder. “I knew I needed to look outside for research opportunities to get the experience that would be important in my career,” said Seaton.
She also emphasized the fact that because she went to a smaller liberal arts college, she took every advantage she could to get the most out of her education.
“I squeezed out every bit from any opportunity I got myself into,” recalled Seaton, ending her four years in college with a degree in biology and a degree in chemistry, as well as taking any opportunity she could to do research both on and off campus.
One of the points both Lee and Seaton emphasized was the idea of starting to build networks and relationships now. Both talked about how influential and helpful their advisors in both college and graduate school had been in their careers expressing their gratitude.
Seaton implored the student listeners now to get to know their professors not only in class or lab, but outside in TA jobs or tutoring, as well.
On joining the workforce, Lee gave helpful advice to the PC students, including about maintaining and building relationships and networks and constantly going to interviews.
Lee suggests that going to an interview for a job you may not even want can be helpful in the long run, says it helps you not only get experience, but helps you understand what you are looking for in a job.
“It’s good to be honest with yourself and open to what you really want,” said Lee. “If you feel like you aren’t being yourself in an interview, it might not be the right fit for you,” she continued, “just trust your instincts.”
Lee and Seaton talked about what they thought was most important when working in the scientific field, or any field for that matter.
“Look for opportunities that challenge you and keep you growing,” said Lee about finding an interesting and fun career. “There isn’t just one straight path in chemistry.”
Seaton mentioned how her career has taken some ups and downs, as she went from having an assistant professor position at the University of North Carolina Asheville to going back to Boston to work in laboratories at Harvard Medical School. “On paper, it was definitely a step down in my career,” said Seaton. “[Being a professor] was a great job, but it turns out it wasn’t what I wanted.”
Seaton stressed to her listeners that they shouldn’t get discouraged if something like this should happen to them in their careers, saying, “Your career is flexible; there will always be other positions, just find what makes you happy.”
Both Lee and Seaton now have successful careers in their prospective industries. Lee is currently leading a team of chemists at Pfizer who are working on a successful project currently in phase two of clinical trials. Seaton is now pursuing her career in microbiology at Indigo Ag, and leads a team of about six female scientists.
Both stressed the fact that their careers are just examples of the many careers chemists, biologists and other science majors can achieve.
Seaton even used the examples of some of her friends who used their scientific knowledge to open bakeries and breweries! “There are many career opportunities, even with just a Bachelor’s degree,” said Seaton.
As a resource for chemistry students at PC, Lee recommends visiting the online site for the American Chemical Society (ACS) to explore different career opportunities, resources, and more information.